Poll

Should harming potions be banned?

Yes
12 (80%)
No
2 (13.3%)
Kanto Only
1 (6.7%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: February 09, 2013, 09:55:22 pm

Author Topic: harming potions  (Read 9848 times)

shishkabob97

  • Turning Bill into a human
  • *****
  • Posts: 143
  • Friendliness: 5
  • POPCORN
harming potions
« on: February 04, 2013, 02:34:19 pm »
I was wondering if we could ban the use of harming pots in e4 fights because they make things way too easy. Before this wasnt a problem because prot 4 armor would protect against it but now every pot does like 6 hearts of damage making them super op.
im too lazy too make one of these :/

Ad...

Tenebrae

  • Sinnoh/Unova Head Builder
  • Professor
  • Fighting Agatha
  • *****
  • Posts: 7604
  • Friendliness: 105
  • Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate :D
    • Bandcamp
Re: harming potions
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 07:04:22 pm »
I guess the way to go is spamming instant health splash potions on yourself.

Okieskinny

  • PokeFan
  • Cycling Road
  • *
  • Posts: 1280
  • Friendliness: 16
  • ◕ ‿ ◕ Always Watching
Re: harming potions
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 07:13:34 pm »
I guess the way to go is spamming instant health splash potions on yourself.
Too bad your opponent can just hop in the splash from the healing potions. :p

Tenebrae

  • Sinnoh/Unova Head Builder
  • Professor
  • Fighting Agatha
  • *****
  • Posts: 7604
  • Friendliness: 105
  • Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate :D
    • Bandcamp
Re: harming potions
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 07:37:43 pm »
Too bad your opponent can just hop in the splash from the healing potions. :p
Too bad you'd also take damage from your instant damage potions too.

Lucasrx

  • Dragon Tamer
  • Fighting Lt. Surge
  • *****
  • Posts: 378
  • Friendliness: 14
  • Rare Candy Son, Because Obama Cares.
    • Kongregate.com
Re: harming potions
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 08:02:58 pm »
I agree with shish. Ban thee Harming Pots.
Zombie Kills: 31,000
Skeleton Kills:24,803
Creeper Kills:26,076
Spider Kills:21,500
Endermen Kills:1210

shishkabob97

  • Turning Bill into a human
  • *****
  • Posts: 143
  • Friendliness: 5
  • POPCORN
Re: harming potions
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 08:07:03 pm »
Too bad you'd also take damage from your instant damage potions too.
actually they dont. When you throw a harm pot it only hurts the opponent for some reason :/
im too lazy too make one of these :/

Okieskinny

  • PokeFan
  • Cycling Road
  • *
  • Posts: 1280
  • Friendliness: 16
  • ◕ ‿ ◕ Always Watching
Re: harming potions
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 08:08:12 pm »
Too bad you'd also take damage from your instant damage potions too.
Depends, there are certain ways you can throw the harming potions to avoid taking the damage.

Tenebrae

  • Sinnoh/Unova Head Builder
  • Professor
  • Fighting Agatha
  • *****
  • Posts: 7604
  • Friendliness: 105
  • Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate :D
    • Bandcamp
Re: harming potions
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 08:41:25 pm »
I agree with shish. Ban thee Harming Pots.
Maybe ban potion effects in the Kanto elite, but still allow them in the Johto elite?

Paradox

  • Professor
  • Fighting Giovanni
  • *****
  • Posts: 966
  • Friendliness: 39
  • Registered User
Re: harming potions
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 08:59:25 pm »
I think it's an interesting problem but raises a big question: What do we want from  elite fights? Do we want who can do the most damage in the shortest amount of time? Do we want an epic battle? Do we want a fight that uses strategy, thought and intellect as well as bronze and hardwork? To eliminate potions, we have to break down what we want the champion to be. Does it take real skill to spam potions? Does that take blood and sweat and hours of training? Is that what we want our champion to reflect?


Like I said, interesting question. I'll be sure to bring this up at the admin meeting.

idracoghost

  • Fighting Misty
  • *
  • Posts: 211
  • Friendliness: 2
  • ..................................................
Re: harming potions
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 09:26:52 pm »
Well elite fights and the whole server pvp in general is not all about stats its also about skill and ability to make fast decisions ,but pot spaming idk like para said interesting question.
-former viridian leader twice
-former cinnabar leader
-unova builder

 -former saffron gymleader

Tenebrae

  • Sinnoh/Unova Head Builder
  • Professor
  • Fighting Agatha
  • *****
  • Posts: 7604
  • Friendliness: 105
  • Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate :D
    • Bandcamp
Re: harming potions
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 09:30:11 pm »
I think it's an interesting problem but raises a big question: What do we want from  elite fights? Do we want who can do the most damage in the shortest amount of time? Do we want an epic battle? Do we want a fight that uses strategy, thought and intellect as well as bronze and hardwork? To eliminate potions, we have to break down what we want the champion to be. Does it take real skill to spam potions? Does that take blood and sweat and hours of training? Is that what we want our champion to reflect?


Like I said, interesting question. I'll be sure to bring this up at the admin meeting.


I like this. And it would also provide a bridge in the difficulty between current Kanto elite and Johto elite, because they currently have the exact same rules.

oddy

  • Professor
  • Raiding Silph Co.
  • *****
  • Posts: 805
  • Friendliness: 32
  • Registered User
Re: harming potions
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 09:46:45 pm »

I like this. And it would also provide a bridge in the difficulty between current Kanto elite and Johto elite, because they currently have the exact same rules.
I don't want to have a difference in rules with the elites personally, my view is elite is elite, there shouldn't be a difficulty curve or "elite junior division" when were make mention of the "best" pvpers on the server
Where's the fire? What's the hurry about? You better cool it off before you burn it out.

Tenebrae

  • Sinnoh/Unova Head Builder
  • Professor
  • Fighting Agatha
  • *****
  • Posts: 7604
  • Friendliness: 105
  • Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate :D
    • Bandcamp
Re: harming potions
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 09:53:16 pm »
I don't want to have a difference in rules with the elites personally, my view is elite is elite, there shouldn't be a difficulty curve or "elite junior division" when were make mention of the "best" pvpers on the server
Gyms in Johto are generally harder than Kanto. But, it was just a suggestion.

Prodigy39

  • Professor
  • Surfing south to SeaFoam
  • *****
  • Posts: 1969
  • Friendliness: 18
  • Live your life the way you want to
Re: harming potions
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 09:53:43 pm »
I don't want to have a difference in rules with the elites personally, my view is elite is elite, there shouldn't be a difficulty curve or "elite junior division" when were make mention of the "best" pvpers on the server
  and the best is not determined by potion spam
"Tene likes her men like squirrels like their acorns... Buried." -Me, inspired from adult swim
I approve

Z4X3R

  • Raiding TeamRocket in Celadon
  • *
  • Posts: 708
  • Friendliness: 0
  • we really out here
Re: harming potions
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 10:16:27 pm »
I'd support a ban on harming pots.